Truth Denied Radio Interviews Michael Murphy
Chemtrail News, Featured, Featured Videos Saturday, July 2nd, 2011Michael Murphy from “What in the World are they Spraying?” is interviewed by Roxy Lopez on the current events surrounding Geoengineering, including his trip to Maui. Test results show an increased levels of Barium, Strantium, and Aluminum in the soil. They have also performed testing of rain samples. Michael addresses all of these issues in this interview.
Michael also talks about the BLUE SKY ORDINANCE that they are trying to pass in Maui.



















heres some propaganda , Asia pollution blamed for halt in warming: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/04/us-climate-sulphur-idUSTRE7634IQ20110704
Agree that we should not put up with hazy skies day after day.
Two poster here, Thor and Jay Reynold seems do not mind having them. Going in a great length to tell anyone to put up with ugly skies. I guess we can not expect them to provide solution to prevent trails from ruining our sky, even with their “well” knowledge. They even may not want us to try to clear our skies..
It’s very sad to find that Michael Murphy would try to pull the wool over your eyes like he did in this interview, Roxy. He knows that aluminum oxide has been in Mau’s soil for eons, hasn’t poisoned anyone, hasn’t affected te environment, and hasn’t changed the soil pH.
What the heck is Jay Reynolds talking about, you say?
This paper describes soils throughout Hawaii’s agriculture experiment stations. It was written in 1985, and mentions the FACT that hawaii soils all contain large amounts of aluminum oxide.
http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/16554
This paper, written in 1959, describes aluminum oxide Bauxite mining areas of Maui:
http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/7963
This paper, written in 1960, describes planning techniques to revegetate STRIP MINED areas where aluminum oxide was to be removed fifty years ago:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/4252197
“The state of Hawaii contains 330 square miles of Bauxite deposits with a volume in excess of 500 million tons of aluminum oxide ”
Roxy, when MJM told you that finding aluminum in the soil, dust, air, or rain of Hawaii, he was zooming you! I wrote him and his cohort G. Edward Griffin long ago and they are fully aware that Hawaii is probably one of the worst cases he could have cited to support his claims.
I know and he knows that anyone who repeats these obvoiously false claims will be laughed out of town by anyone with a background in Hawaii soils and atmosphere. All I had to do was google Hawaii and bauxite to find this info.
Why do you think MJM would be telling you people this stuff, knowing it is false? Can you come up with any logical explanation, because I’d like to hear it.
As for barium and strontium in hawaii’s atmosphere, try checking out the work of Stanford’s Vitousek Group.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/Vitousek/peterv.htm
This is a LARGE group of multidisciplinary scientists who study Hawaii soils. Here is a listing of the diverse nature of participation:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/magma/scientists.htm
Also, it turns out that ordinary ocean water analyzed fifty years ago showed that both ocean water and marine organisms contain significant amounts of guess what, Barium and Strontium!
http://sabella.mba.ac.uk/1746/01/Strontium_and_barium_in_sea_water_and_marine_organisms.pdf
Surely, there is no salt air in hawaii, and no possibility of barium or strontium in the air, rain, dust, or soils there, right, Roxy?
Wrong.
The Vitousek Group has published numerous papers showing how marine salts blown in from the sea are the MAIN CONTRIBUTORS of STRONTIUM and BARIUM in Hawaii soils!
Read it for yourself:
http://faculty.ucr.edu/~martink/pdfs/Vitosek_1999.pdf
What you need to know is all laid out above for you, Roxy.
What you need to decide is:
a) will you let MJM get away with telling you stuff you know isn’t true?
b) will you help MJM spread false information through your interview, now that you know it is false and easily debunked?
After that decision, you need to think about WHY he did this.
What do you say, Roxy, surely tis situation can’t go unresponded to.
Jay Reynolds
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S5NVIBNt3dk/ThPe7CsavjI/AAAAAAAAAGs/GzqRdKu2RzY/s1600/july+5th+2011+001.JPG
I have one thing to say . I am not laughing.
Roxy- can you explain your response? DO you understand the ramifications of what Jay has exposed? Or do you just ignore it and live in denial?
Ok jay . tell me WTF is happening in our skies ? NEVER have I seen a blue sky in my life turn gray because of aircraft , You cant seem to answer that one simple question . I live as you know in sunny s Florida which hasnt hardly seen a clear day this year . You cant tell me thats there is that much more air traffic this year as compared to last year , If this is what you call normal air traffic then it has to stop . Why should we put up with hazy skies day after day ? This clearly is geoengineering on a world wide scale .or solar radiation management . Roxy isnt trying to pull anything over our eyes .WE all see it for ourselves . We are not blind and we remember when our skies werent filled with AIRCRAP . I live near the Cape so I am very aware of my skies I also been surfing for 20 years in florida and spend plenty of time watching the sky between waves and in Fl that could be quite a while . I am a out door person . So tell me its normal and Ill tell you you dont have a clue ,
So Treasure…when you read peer-reviewed papers such as this which detail exactly what you describe…what do you make of it??
This paper describes EXACTLY what you describe…and yet it was written 38 years ago…
Is it “disinfo”? Is the science wrong? What?
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
R.G. Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Volume 29, Issue 7 (October 1972)
“It is often observed that contrails spread considerably…Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed…If sufficient air traffic exists, an entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours.”
http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/pielke/classes/atoc7500/knollenberg72.pdf
Can you explain why you think contrails cannot behave the way you describe? Is it just based on your memory or based on physics and scientific principles?
PS: Roxy was fully duped by Murphy.
You and Jay havent convinced me . but the more you guys persist the more I think we are right . nice try . hey is this you Jay ????http://twitter.com/#!/geoengpolicy
like the peer review science of Global Warming ? Maybe you guys should hound those guys because they are spreading the lies and conspiracy of Global Warming AKA climate change or cap & tax
Roxy, I wouldn’ be laughing, either, if I were you. What I have told you likely hit you smack between the eyes like a brick. What I have done isto distill the issue down to a simple choice between doing right, or doing wrong.
It gets worse, though, much worse, if you ignore it.
What does Jay Reynolds mean now, you say?
Here’s the deal. For some months now, I have been sending information to Michael Murphy so that he will stop telling you folks stuff that isn’t true. He has been fully informed yet he has made a CONSCIOUS FULLY INFORMED DECISION to not admit his error and so he continues compounding the lies by ‘sticking to his story’.
These are not the actions of a wise man. This is an act of desperation borne out by a man who found himself with a choice to make not unlike the one that faces you, Roxy.
Yes, its no laughing matter when the right side of this web page speaks of
“DEATH BY HANGING OR LETHAL INJECTION”.
If you choose to follow in MJM’s footsteps further down into his Matrix of lies, you become as one with him.
The only real “laughing matter” here is the irony that Michael J. Murphy chose to tell his lies on a radio show called “The Truth Denied”.
Will Roxy Lopez change that irony, or will she aid and abet Michael J. Murphy in his denial of the truth?
Time will tell.
I don’t envy the choice in front of you, Roxy, but remember, a choice to do nothing is still a choice.
Jay Reynolds
The choice has been made.
We choose to dig in deeper and investigate further.
The information you have provided will be taken into account, however asking for everyone to take your point of view alone is asking a bit much.
All avenues have to be explored, especially when it comes to the fact of the matter that these aircraft and the recent inundation of cloud cover created by them by whatever the cause may be – must be revealed. That is what makes for a good investigator.
If it takes posting a poll with such dramatic measures such as “DEATH BY HANGING OR LETHAL INJECTION” to get the required attention, then so be it. It is a call to accountability for what some see as a potential threat to the environment and their very lives, even if it is concealed as a move towards this so called “Sustainable” future. We are the ones that are affected this very moment in time and it is human nature to fight for survival.
There is a feeling that our survival is being threatened whether real or imagined and people want answers.
You have your beliefs based in dry, clear cut scientific documents and journals.
We have our countless political, social engineering documents which tactfully describe a call for “Climate Change” which is shaping up to be none other that double speak for a discrete way to reduce population and gain tighter control over what remains.
If you do not wish to factor in the above mentioned, I can understand where you fall short in your comprehension of the greater matter at hand.
Threatening ones investigative credibility will fail to silence the remaining need for further inquiry by others. You will have an increasingly difficult task ahead of you while conducting your debunking methods and targeting individuals as the number of people and groups wanting the full and real truth grows.
You didn’t happen to find any Bauxite or Barium mining operations being conducted in the upper layers of snow pack on the slops of Mount Shasta by any chance, seeing as the aluminum ski binding theory didn’t turn out so well?
CY Said:
“whatever the cause may be – must be revealed”
But is it possible that it has been revealed but you are unwilling to accept the answer?
Can your provide any evidence – whatsoever- that the supposed goal of “population reduction” is in any way taking place? Certainly the aggregate population numbers and trends do not reflect that in any way.
As for MT Shasta: I am sure Jay can reply to that comment more extensively but keep in mind that the predominant geology on Mt. Shasta- andesite- is rich in aluminum…and thus one would expect to find in samples…and as such one cannot conclude definitively much less logically that any aluminum found there came from an airplane…
keep looking up!
whatever the cause may be – must be revealed
“But is it possible that it has been revealed but you are unwilling to accept the answer?”
There is always this possibility, however it depends on who is doing the answering and what their possible motive may be.
An example of leading or steering answers:
“Persistent contrails consist of ice crystals and water vapor”
(yes, this is true and I won’t dispute the fact, however the answer remains incomplete)
BUT
What is more than often avoided is the facts of the physics behind why these visible ice crystals and water vapor do not sublimate as readily back to a non visible gas state in non super saturated conditions and more importantly the question of what the cloud condensation nuclei within the plume are. It seems debunkers go to great lengths to pull the ol’ slight of hand around this CCN issue and pull people off, onto other topics of their choosing.
The physics backs the theory that “some” clouds are formed via CCN; in fact their are many lengthy scientific journals dedicated to specifications related to how critical CCN size was for ice crystal formation to occur over coagulation and quality of reflectivity etc. etc. I imagine that this information would be of great value to someone interested in the development of geoengineering aerosols.
One does have the right to examine all the possibilities, including aircraft, when snow pack samples contain alumina and alumina has been definitively recommended by geoengineers as being a four times more efficient product option than sulfate. Dust from rock face erosion may be a potential source, but I would hope that samples would be able to distinguish the “holly grail” size consistency (as discussed in these atmospheric papers) of the particles found. Perhaps this is something that has not been scrutinized yet?
And now you clowns are Geologists also???? Give us a break…….Your ignorance is clear to all on this site….
Thor and Jay, your threats are duly noted.
Roxy, there is no way that anything I have said could be considered a threat,
and you should realize that by telling you the facts of the matter by intent was to inform you better and let you know of the MJM deception on your broadcast.
I hope you carefully consider the choice you have to make.
Suomi, you will find the Mt.Shasta information at these links, and need to know that Michael J. Murphy and G. Edward Griffin were both made aware of these facts over one month ago, but have chosen to make no substantive response.
http://metabunk.org/threads/137-Shasta-Snow-and-Water-Aluminum-Tests.
Anyone who thinks that these facts will not eventually need to be addressed is fooling themselves. You people ask for publicity, demand answers, and expect to have your claims examined. Don’t be surprised when answers are given that don’t agree with what you believe. When you are shown to be wrong, the wise thing to do is to revise your hypothesis and move on. Hardening your stance when proven wrong in the face of insurmountable facts is a foolish losers game, and one who does so destroys his own credibility.
Word.
Jay
Jay
“insurmountable facts”
Pretty strong words. I guess to a person whose mind is impervious to accepting anything outside of the norm, maybe not so. I looked over the thread you provided and of course found it to be biased opinion based on the fact that there may be a possibility that a “small” amount of naturally occurring background dust from rock face erosion may have occurred. If anything I found the discussion to be at least on the same level that you accuse us of, speculating or pulling at straws. Plants that accumulate aluminum and then burn to release ash over the mountain? – wow, that’s really stretching it! Not saying that it couldn’t happen, though.
I would be looking at the differences between refined, consistent sized alumina and comparing it to the naturally occurring dusts from bauxite ore – then go from there.
I wouldn’t get too hung up on trying to discredit Murphy, he is only one man. In your book, the damage has already been done – people have begun to question. It is pretty weak to try and pick over one man’s attempt to find the real truth. No one is infallible, but one thing I can say is that I do appreciate Murphy’s effort to at least get people to question what the hell is going on above them and no amount of TEL laden pictures of 1950′s “persistent contrails”, hyper excessive – water vapor producing – post 90 jet engines, abnormal variance in flight paths, supposed – vastly increasing numbers of commercial flight demands — will cover for something that is so blatantly obvious.
Perhaps, at present there isn’t anything to this new appearance of the plasma we live under? Nothing to be concerned over at this point? Maybe just social conditioning to readily accept having these placebo line sources hanging over our communities for future nefarious uses? Maybe denial of a crime constitutes that it is not officially occurring so we should all just move along? Maybe there has already been released a binary weapon that has not been triggered yet? Maybe Morgellons disease came form a combination of drinking wine and eating ham sandwiches that went bad? Maybe the likes of Jay and Thor don’t work for private interests and are just crusaders on a quest to set people onto the facts as they see them? Maybe the government is being secretive for our own good and are reshaping society through the only means they are capable of?
Too many maybes to ignore, discredit or discount without further investigation.
I do agree that ground and water samples are weak evidence at this point, but in no way should anyone be discouraged to continue to keep gathering what may amount to be potential evidence if the right variables are sought. The best evidence of course is going to be found by direct wake samples and or a thorough investigation of these planes, fuel systems (and not a biased investigation like the one provided on Discovery) – we want JP8, we want Stadis 450, Apollo DGT 2, we want BP aviation or any other potential glitches in the supply chain. And if such is found to support the proof – we want accountability – including the ones who knowingly denied their involvement. What happens from there? – well there is always the poll at the column on the right hand side of this page.
Roxy-
Threats?? wow…indeed, please highlight any threat I have made…seriously…don’t flatter yourself…
I could make some comment about “paranoid conspiracy theorist” here but I won’t…
DO you have anything substantive to say regarding the information Jay provided?
Well, Somi, the claims bein made by Murphy appear to have been made by someone who had no inkling that
1. Mt. Shasta is made of 15% aluminum oxide
2. Hawaii contains 350 square miles of Bauxite deposits
3. All of the alkaline earth metal elements blow in earth’s winds to the tune
of 1380 giga tons per year.
4. That aluminum oxide will not and cannot change soil pH because it is inert under under ordinary soil conditions, and has always existed in practically all soils.
Until you can absorb these insurmountable facts, and stop promoting rumors to the contrary, you can never rise towards truth, and indeed are laid low into a dismal state of ignorance, lies, and self-deception.
This is your choice. Choose to rise up or sink low and live like bacteria.
“stop promoting rumors to the contrary, you can never rise towards truth, and indeed are laid low into a dismal state of ignorance, lies, and self-deception.”
Really? From my perspective I see it as inquiry, vigilance, and a heightened state of awareness, and at the core – ultimately self preservation. What’s that old saying? The life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or some such.
- Not the promotion of bipolar paranoia as you have envisioned. The only ones who will “sink low and live like bacteria” are the sheeple who are too apathetic to look out for themselves and their loved ones. Liberals by title. Only the timid fear failure and I am not above admitting when I am wrong.
Climate Change has whipped its believers into becoming the Co2 Chicken Littles that are going to cause the sky to fall via SRM. Crying out for a means by which to reduce Co2 output of no less than 80% by 2050. Funny; that percentage, along with citations from past summits, have their roots going back to the 70′s when it (and apparently still is) fashionable to panic over the worlds increasing population, coincidentally – the source of today’s Co2 issue. It can be concluded that this whole climate crisis is politically correct, double speak for population reduction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTk4S_HV2w&feature=player_embedded
John Miller, NOAA scientist, speaking at 350 climate change rally at the Denver statehouse, Oct. 24, 2009.
“You will be left behind irrelevant. I’ve seen thousands of you do this, and expect to see it continue”
I’m not so sure of this, I’ve hung in there for quite some time now and find it more intriguing each day that passes as the number of people becoming aware grows – (as annoying as that may be to you). I guess you could turn it into a positive if you look at it as more of a challenge having to re-educate ever increasing numbers?
The reason that you may have “seen thousands” bail is because they were too afraid to work hard to get to the truth and wanted someone else to hand it to them. In my book a person has to work hard in order to get smart, in turn to get to the truth – there are no short cuts. Short cuts are where deception takes shelter.
Studying documents from back to front may get you through college, but it won’t cut it in the real world where the back of the book is not always available to you.
Put another way. If you are unable to learn from your mistakes, you doom yourself to failure and eventual irrelevance. Very few of you will last much longer than a few years at this rate. You will be left behind irrelevant. I’ve seen thousands of you do this, and expect to see it continue based on the low quality of research and self-correction displayed. Don’t be surprised when you find no success when you don’t work towards truth and reject falsehoods. Work smart, not hard.
Somi wrote:
“The best evidence of course is going to be found by direct wake samples and or a thorough investigation of these planes, fuel systems (and not a biased investigation like the one provided on Discovery) – we want JP8, we want Stadis 450, Apollo DGT 2, we want BP aviation or any other potential glitches in the supply chain. And if such is found to support the proof – we want accountability – including the ones who knowingly denied their involvement. What happens from there? – well there is always the poll at the column on the right hand side of this page.”
Hmm, I’ve waited 14 years for wake samples. None of your people are up to it.
If you have suspicons about fuel, just buy some. However, no real need to work so hard. If there is something in fuel, just sample exhaust on the ground at a runway.
In 14 years any or all of you could have graduated from college, gotten a PhD., become an licensed pilot, and been plying the skies for years gathering evidence. None of you are up to that, either.
Lots of maybe, lots of questions, poverty when it comes to answers, coverups when it comes to errors. Like breaking wind in an elevator and every one is afraid to point the finger.
Where is your accountability?
Dust in the wind.
My accountability? I’ve been alone in an elevator, farted and still blamed someone else.
14 years? wow, I’d be looking for closure as well. Can’t say I’ve been at it that long; I’m just getting started.
I do take into account your valid concern.
I say Julian was on to something with this statement
Roxy, what do you say to the 600lb. Gorilla in the room?
Debunking Chemtrail Debunkers – The Government’s Quisling Shills
By Julian Penrod
julianpenrod@comcast.net
10-5-2
“As disreputable as it can be to engage in the unethical and underhanded, it can be as vile to know about the unscrupulous, and not acknowledge its existence.”
http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/chemtrails/debunking_chems_debunk.htm
Roxy, Don’t waste your time or energy on shills like Thor and company. His crap is all over this website, and all no it………..